tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029797379711350813.post924235584117744187..comments2024-03-18T12:24:57.638-07:00Comments on the prowling Bee: I saw no Way — The Heavens were stitched —Susan Kornfeldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05384011972647144453noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029797379711350813.post-75628902893583852382024-01-27T05:22:23.317-08:002024-01-27T05:22:23.317-08:00Assuming the last line means ED traveled beyond Ch...Assuming the last line means ED traveled beyond Christian dogma, arrived at the Universe’s outer edge, what happened then? Her story begins well, then suddenly ends. Disappointing. Actually, she sounds a bit conceited, as if no one else had ever questioned God:<br /><br />“I touched the Universe —<br /><br />“And back it slid — and I alone —<br />A Speck upon a Ball —<br />Went out upon Circumference —<br />Beyond the Dip of Bell —”<br /><br />Twelve years before ED recorded this 1863 poem and 30 miles northwest of Amherst, a troubled Melville in the form of Ishmael, led by insane Ahab, traveled to the edge of Circumference, beyond the “Dip of Bell”, in search of God in the form of a white whale, Moby Dick. Ishmael, narrator and only survivor of the search, ends his story quoting Job (1:14-19): “I only am escaped alone to tell thee.” <br />Larry Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02810899482852120751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029797379711350813.post-79089941581704132592024-01-26T09:21:57.907-08:002024-01-26T09:21:57.907-08:00How did ED imagine, “The Earth reversed her Hemisp...How did ED imagine, “The Earth reversed her Hemispheres —” and “I alone / A Speck upon a Ball”? Both are demonstrably true, the Earth does reverse its N/S magnetic polarity every 300,000 years or so, but that discovery came after ED died; she spoke metaphorically in 1863. However, spherical Earth was accepted science, so her “I alone / A Speck upon a Ball”, while amazing poetic imagination, was conceivable science.Larry Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02810899482852120751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029797379711350813.post-28601460810503419542023-12-02T07:35:25.274-08:002023-12-02T07:35:25.274-08:00Emily's use of "bell" to end this po...Emily's use of "bell" to end this poem is wonderful. You mention above that the dip of the bell is the "tipping of the bell" and I see that now. I originally took the dip of bell to mean something like the dip of a bell curve, describing the circumference. But there is a ringing of a bell here too, especially as a chiming rhyme with "ball". We are left with a ringing sound and I'm reminded (as was a commenter above) of the bell in "I felt a funeral in my brain." I would love to read all of the bell poems bound in a single book. Make the cover silver and call it "Bulb after Bulb, in Silver rolled". d scribehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08242682202760522439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029797379711350813.post-23192647759399955472022-10-17T20:46:53.593-07:002022-10-17T20:46:53.593-07:00Thank you! It is a poem that thrives in the ponder...Thank you! It is a poem that thrives in the pondering.Susan Kornfeldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05384011972647144453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029797379711350813.post-52783685548805402982022-10-17T08:23:51.999-07:002022-10-17T08:23:51.999-07:00I'm still puzzled by the last 5 lines. I read...I'm still puzzled by the last 5 lines. I read it as if she had touched/understood the universe momentarily but it slid back/away from her. Leaving her alone on the circumference beyond even the sound of bells with a void between her and the universe.<br />I saw her on the edge of the circumference, alone & staring into the void with the universe in the distance & no longer touchable/understandble. A brief encounter.<br /><br />I guess that's the mystery of ED. Your comment, "Unlike the closing of the heavens and the shifting of the earth, the Universe slides open as if it were a door and she had triggered a secret latch.", had not even occurred to me. <br />That's why I love your blog so much. Thanks!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029797379711350813.post-16087949296927890712021-01-06T22:12:24.046-08:002021-01-06T22:12:24.046-08:00Love your ID name! Dip is the tipping or swinging ...Love your ID name! Dip is the tipping or swinging of the bell. One good resource for you is the Dickinson Lexicon: https://edl.byu.edu/lexicon/term/604839Susan Kornfeldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05384011972647144453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029797379711350813.post-89593946365286617042021-01-06T21:15:56.680-08:002021-01-06T21:15:56.680-08:00Hi Susan Kornfeld, Can i ask you a easy question, ...Hi Susan Kornfeld, Can i ask you a easy question, which is a little hard to me a non-native chinese reader? what is the meaing of the "Dip" in the sentence "the Dip of Bell" ? Is the meaning of the "Dip" a lower place of Bell? Or is it just the downward movment of Bell?Spirit of a hundred of plantshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16829468594851823280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029797379711350813.post-61357066477586010902021-01-06T21:10:18.944-08:002021-01-06T21:10:18.944-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Spirit of a hundred of plantshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16829468594851823280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029797379711350813.post-44264748486802173292019-01-11T15:22:01.035-08:002019-01-11T15:22:01.035-08:00I hadn't even thought of 'close' that ...I hadn't even thought of 'close' that way. It makes an interesting reading. My objection to it is the contrast ED builds between the closing in and the sliding back. When the heavens are stitched, there is no escape from the columns closing in on you -- a sort of existential claustrophobia. But she dared to touch and venture out -- and the universe opened before her.<br /><br />But having written that, I can see that close columns are a further description of stitched heavens. To me, though, the closing columns are part of the rather apocalyptic reversal of the hemispheres.Susan Kornfeldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05384011972647144453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029797379711350813.post-6397219431567984302019-01-11T15:16:27.406-08:002019-01-11T15:16:27.406-08:00That's interesting about Emerson. As for the B...That's interesting about Emerson. As for the Bible dealing with the Centre -- perhaps she was getting at the focus on salvation and on living life. Circumference might then be the vantage point of understanding the larger picture -- the whole earth and cosmos. From the Centre one cannot see space or the Divine except from the vantage of revealed knowledge. Maybe!Susan Kornfeldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05384011972647144453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029797379711350813.post-79749619904019338402019-01-11T13:54:11.163-08:002019-01-11T13:54:11.163-08:00I love your interpretation as well as the comments...I love your interpretation as well as the comments here. Such a great poem! I go back and forth on reading "close" as something that is shut and something that is near. I might prefer the latter, but I'm not sure if she meant it that way. Maybe the ambiguity was intended. - EllenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029797379711350813.post-35013670554699605572018-11-12T05:18:50.124-08:002018-11-12T05:18:50.124-08:00Thank you for your post. I was just reading about ...Thank you for your post. I was just reading about this poem and learned that it might be a critique of Emerson's denial of an "outside" beyond Earth. He wrote that "There is no outside, no inclosing wall, no circumference to us." And he goes on to write that "The only sin is limitation." Dickinson seems to be speaking to this declaration. The speaker experiences an outside or "circumference" in this poem. She wrote to Higginson, "My Business is Circumference." So this idea of experiencing an outside (the Divine?) that encompases the self seemed important to her. But to complicate this idea, she also wrote, "The Bible dealt with the Centre, not with the Circumference--". Is she saying here that the Bible is about people, about us, and not about the Divine? It's a message from the Divine (Circumference?) about us (the Centre?)Evehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03547332766652134671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029797379711350813.post-51300386939740594182018-01-20T22:26:29.446-08:002018-01-20T22:26:29.446-08:00Welcome to Dickinson -- and the blog. Those two po...Welcome to Dickinson -- and the blog. Those two poems are both fascinating.Susan Kornfeldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05384011972647144453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029797379711350813.post-55647820539934791392018-01-20T22:25:13.297-08:002018-01-20T22:25:13.297-08:00I love that quote. Thank you for it.
I love that quote. Thank you for it.<br />Susan Kornfeldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05384011972647144453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029797379711350813.post-73393746566611897122018-01-20T21:29:40.122-08:002018-01-20T21:29:40.122-08:00Thank you for starting this blog! This poem is bea...Thank you for starting this blog! This poem is beautiful and your descriptions are very informative. I just started reading Emily Dickinson. So far this one and "One need not be a Chamber--" are my favorites.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029797379711350813.post-55845620668913050502017-10-22T22:42:47.692-07:002017-10-22T22:42:47.692-07:00Reminds me of Anna Akhmatova who said the anecdote...Reminds me of Anna Akhmatova who said the anecdote to despair is remembering every day the galaxies glitter with new stars. Both Anna and ED were without the advantage of the Hubble.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029797379711350813.post-32620352310359676072017-10-10T22:02:21.766-07:002017-10-10T22:02:21.766-07:00"Way" "Hemisphere" "Earth..."Way" "Hemisphere" "Earth" all seem big and daunting. The only line not using capitalization to make something bigger: "And back it slid — and I alone —"Clairenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029797379711350813.post-12370230513129124152017-08-01T21:23:38.429-07:002017-08-01T21:23:38.429-07:00I really like your commentary here. I agree with &...I really like your commentary here. I agree with "Funeral" parallels. There is a finishing of 'knowing' and a vast aloneness. Your take on the Universe sliding back, that it is sliding back in place in a restorative manner is interesting. I see it as sliding back for the big Reveal.<br /><br /> It makes a big difference. One way, she has had an epiphany or transcendental experience which leaves her at Circumference, altered and deeply aware of alone-ness. In the other (the one I present), her epiphany is the visceral sense of vastness and the ineffable. <br /><br />I like reading the poem both ways -- a good reverberation.<br />Susan Kornfeldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05384011972647144453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029797379711350813.post-79289530441873378392017-08-01T12:43:30.422-07:002017-08-01T12:43:30.422-07:00I think you have the right reading.
The poet begi...I think you have the right reading.<br /><br />The poet begins with rationality. "I saw no Way" -- looking for an explanation, how heaven, eternity, the ultimate, is stitched together. Then the poet moves to understanding through feeling what can't be comprehended through reason. "I felt the columns close", I touched the Universe". the rhymes in these lines are powerful -- "Earth", "reversed", "her", "hemisphere" Universe". The sense is of an upending of rational order -- the reversing of the earth's hemispheres. The poet sees with fresh eyes.<br /><br />In the last stanza, reason returns (back it slid), but the poet is changed by what she has seen and felt. All that reason can interpret from the experience is a sense of vastness, aloneness, and ineffability -- that something is beyond the limits of rational understanding (circumference) beyond hearing.<br /><br />The poem in this way reminds me of "I felt a funeral in my brain". Beginning with reason "Mourners to and fro kept treading, treading till it seemed that sense was breaking through" -- moving to being plunged into a sensory experience beyond reason "as all the heavens were a bell and being but an ear" that leaves one with an understanding of a profound, disoriented, aloneness in vast space ("and I and silence some strange race wrecked solitary here"), to a return to a rationality profoundly altered by an inexpressible experience. "And hit a world at every plunge, and finished knowing -- then." Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4029797379711350813.post-18136780248171539952017-07-31T18:59:37.032-07:002017-07-31T18:59:37.032-07:00I like your interpretation. It reminds me of a &q...I like your interpretation. It reminds me of a "Cosmic Consciousness" experience similar to those described by Burke in his book.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com